Pulitzer Prize winner Caitlin Dickerson speaks with @davidfrum on ICE’s explosive growth, Trump’s detention surge, and the future of U.S. immigration enforcement.
Watch the full episode of “The David Frum Show” here: https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/08/david-frum-show-immigration-caitlin-dickerson/683931/?gift=yGKGqaI9BMfIDuch_TrGYSKDUlIoLKem6vH-kKzqDdA&utm_source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social